Adult Film Star Angela White Opens Up About Everything Sex
Angela White what what how did this
happen
I met you at the premiere of the roast
and it all went crazy from there why do
I feel like as soon as we met we were
friends I don't know but something about
the way you touched me which sounds
I I need to watch it apparently yeah you
you grabbed me and I was like wow like
in my head I was like wow she's really
touching me but I mean
no I
okay so Angela White is coming forward
with an allegation no no I'd rather not
be here for this I feel like this is
supposed to be between you and your
lawyer
no you you grabbed me in a way I was
impressed because a lot of people don't
really touch each other in La like it's
very like there's no meaning behind your
actress the producer will touch you as
much as you want
um at the Christmas party uh and as much
as you don't want frankly but we hadn't
met I knew you were coming I knew of you
a little bit it's not that I don't know
you really well
um because I know how famous you are I
had you know Alex from only fans had
sent me you know a list of who was
coming and I was like oh God and I
I I didn't totally know but I could feel
that you were someone does that make
sense well like I could feel you have
Star Energy
thank you and your yeah and your eyes I
are wild and we connected and it was a
very um chaotic situation and I went up
to like hug you or something yeah and
I'm so grateful that you came oh I was
so happy to be there I had so much fun
it was great I just like I can only
really I am so at ease around sex
workers because it's a comedians same
same yeah you know we're giving our uh
you know it's like I don't use it very
vulnerable yeah like yeah giving your
body to people for their you know enjoy
we give our emotions and insecurities
and Etc so it's it always just feels
very safe to me yeah
yeah I hope because we were on a podcast
together recently and you were like you
hugged me really hard at that party and
I was like is she gonna sue me no I am
not going to sue you I would like you to
do it again
no I you you're interested if I don't do
it again yeah like if you don't keep
hugging me like that it's over you you
we were on the red carpet or the blue
carpet because it was for only fans yeah
and you you grabbed me and you looked
into my eyes and I was like wow she's
real
yeah
and we hugged yeah
enveloped yeah
and you haven't you have such a warmth
to you and I get and I don't know why
that's surprising I think in some way
I'm very intimidated by you uh and what
you do because I admire it so much and I
I'm scared of it you know I think people
tend to think
stand-up comedy is the scariest thing
the hardest thing the most uh
embarrassing thing or the most
um the thing that requires the most
amount of Courage but I look at sex work
and I go like that see that I am you
know that's where I get well I think we
do the thing we both do the things that
people find the scariest it's public
speaking and being naked in front of
people yep so
that's
yeah has this been like what and I'm
gonna just start from the beginning okay
at what point in your life were you did
you become sexual did it become
comfortable like how when was this this
is my life this is my dream this is my
future 14. 14 14 is kind of like
that was when everything started
happening that's when I developed my
breaths that's when I was super sexual
Express this big off the Jump it pretty
much not quite this big
um at 14 I was a double D so and then
they just slowly grew after that but it
felt like overnight like I was 13 flat
chested 14 double d tits I had a girl in
my school that had she was very very
short shorter than you and she had such
big boobs it was like a problem like she
had back problems yeah Kate Upton's a
good friend of mine she you know she had
trouble breastfeeding like she's like
big boobs are kind of a traumatic
Chelsea Lynn who's only fans trailer
trashed Tammy when she said she couldn't
play sports because they would hit her
they'd hit her in the face I'm like this
feels like a fucked up karmic punishment
um and were they was it when they what
was your experience when they started
coming in because I think very few
people are like oh you have big boobs I
feel so bad for you but it must be kind
of confusing it is I mean they're a
blessing and a curse I mean I for me
they're mainly a blessing but um I did
get that time okay so before you were
like these are gonna make me an iconic
millionaire
so before that I mean at 13 all my other
friends had developed so I was flat
chested so I would cry myself to sleep
because I didn't have tits and my mom
would always say don't worry you're
going to get tits and you're going to
catch up and you're going to overtake
everyone which I didn't believe her at
the time yes everyone in my family both
my grandmothers have big tits so it's
like both sides of the family big
titties all my cousins my sisters
everyone has big tits but at 13 not
having like I had nothing and my friends
had tits even if they were BLC cups I'm
like I'm a horny woman that wants to
express and explore myself and I have no
tits and I felt like tits were the
ticket what do you mean you're at 13
were you masturbating at that time yes
that I was trying to think when you came
on I was like when did I masturbate
first like I does any do people remember
like I just wrapped my head around my
losing my virginity thing story like
remembering but I don't remember when I
figured that out
see I was doing like sexual
self-pleasuring things before I knew
what masturbation was because I think
about what I did with my friends when we
were kids and like humping like the
dolls and things like that which is
basically masturbation you know so so
just so you're with Australia yeah
everyone this is where they sent the
criminals they sent the criminals to an
island to go hump dolls
I don't think that's why but that is
what ended up happening
[Laughter]
so casually yeah I I don't I didn't do
hump dolls with your friends yeah with
my friends yeah we did it together like
we would do these little ceremonies
where we would get married to the soft
toys and then we would hump them because
we'd have to consummate the marriage so
we would hump we would be in bed
together side by side humping the dolls
yeah and we would you know make our
Barbies have sex and stuff I mean that
wasn't masturbation but we were yeah
exploring sex and sexual ideas was there
do you remember seeing images in movies
or magazines that like led to it or no
nothing led to it I I do remember seeing
like naked people in movies was so
exciting I remember like the full
frontal nudity in Life of Brian like
that was just so exciting my name was
household like my you know I had family
members that cheated and stuff and I
would go to the mistress's home and like
see stuff oh wow yeah I remember like
I've there was the household was there
were women in the house naked coming in
coming out and I kind of I think and I
can't I can't really delineate whether
it was like oh this is sexual I'm into
sex or it's like oh this is what gets my
dad's attention so I should do that uh
look like that or exactly you know what
I mean like it was kind of like at a
very early age at an early age I was
just so fascinated with naked bodies and
sex even if it wasn't like a sexual
thing bodies are just so ridiculous and
it's sweet that we are not allowed to
see them how can you see it let a kid
love a moon bounce but not jump on
titties
same same yeah soft bouncy things yeah
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off only for a limited time I I was that
weird kid at school in the back of the
library reading all the sex books like
there's a book called where did we come
from which had all the cartoon
illustrations of naked people in
reproduction and reproductive organs and
that was fascinating to me and I was you
know I knew I wasn't supposed to like
look at it every single day so I'd
always go to the back of the library to
like stare at these cartoon images
so I've always been fascinated by sex
and sexuality
and naked bodies but was there a
religion in your house at all because I
think maybe the the in marigolds before
there's just such a religious shame like
a fabric of shame that underpins
everything that I feel like
it was so I was brought up Christian but
it wasn't like a super strict religious
household
um my mum was really open with me about
sex and masturbation
um she's a photographer cool yeah so it
makes sense that I ended up on the other
side of the screen
um but yeah she she was really open with
me like she gave me a copy of um the
share the the height report do you know
this book sheer height wrote this book
in the 70s
um and it basically surveyed women on
their sexual experiences and on
masturbation and how they masturbated
because she wanted me to she actually
asked me like do you know how to
masturbate are you coming at what age I
can't remember what age I want to say it
was around 14 it was around that age and
so she gave me this book and in the book
women detail the ways to you by Sherry
hate yeah wow so she so in that blue
card yeah it's a great it's a classic
text and um women detail the ways that
they actually masturbate and so it was
you know from reading that book that I
got a mirror and looked down at my vulva
and figured out like where's the
clitoris and learn how to master the
first time you put the mirror up it's a
real it's yeah it's it's
it was good to have have to have studied
so many illustrations
I knew kind of what it was supposed to
look like so it wasn't so yeah yeah
so I was messed up why does this look
like my laundry basket
um
did she was she very involved when you
were like going through puberty and
having your period and stuff yeah so
when I um so she knew at the like when I
had a boyfriend she knew that this was
probably going to be the one that I lost
my virginity to so even before like that
happened she was like you know if you
want to have sex like let's talk I'll
give you some condoms all that kind of
stuff and then when I lost my virginity
she gave me like a present like a losing
your virginity present yeah she bought
me some lingerie oh yeah my mom was my
mom was great Turned Down For What yeah
she's great damn and was she married yes
what's his deal
um I mean what do you mean what's he
like deal with like he's it's just he's
just what's his what's up with him
what's up Dad I guess I'm just like I
don't know I don't even know how to talk
about dads I mean I didn't I didn't have
the same I did I didn't have the same
relationship with my dad like my me and
my dad weren't open about sex
yeah you're about to get slammed yeah
Mommy's Mommy's girl totally yeah I
think there's this sort of um
I don't want to say stereotype myth
whatever that like if you like sex a lot
you your dad must have failed or
something and I think I always try to
challenge that yes you know uh I think
most people like sex yeah yeah
regardless of what you know what's up
with Dad yeah yeah yeah yeah and so
you're in Australia and then you you
lose your virginity at what point are
you like when you lost your like did you
enjoy it when do you start enjoying sex
because I think for most people sex is
not this is not the experience yeah you
know so I'm just so curious if you know
I I maybe had the way that you had a
positive relationship with comedy I'm
sorry
the way that you had a positive
relationship with
um sex I developed a positive
relationship with comedy earlier yeah
with my it's like when traumatic things
would happen or bad things would happen
like jokes would cut the tension and
everyone would laugh and I was like okay
this is the thing this is what's you
know so it's like obviously
that's where the pavlovian sort of like
desire to keep doing that you know came
from
um but I'm curious like because most
people I think losing your virginity is
kind of like usually not a great that's
not great yeah if I is I'm like yeah it
wasn't like I was having like multiple
orgasms and you know it was the best sex
of my life nothing's it was the peak you
know like you know and then it kind of
taints it and then you're so and because
maybe America is a little bit different
because it's a lot of like furtive you
know religious shame you're dry humping
in closets and getting your braces stuck
on someone's cock ring it was just like
it's you don't really have good sex so
you're like 30 in America
um
so there was sort of a relief after I
lost my virginity because there was so
much like
The Virginity thing like there's so much
tied to that like it's so important you
know and a lot and leading up to losing
my virginity I'd done basically
everything else like I was just sucking
dick all the time because I was like I
could I loved sucking dick it was so
much fun for me because I was like this
is a way for me to be sexual but I can
still protect my precious virginity yeah
you know I can suck anyone's dick that
doesn't have to be special but popping
the Cherry that has to be with someone I
love and it has to be beautiful and
wonderful and something that I'll
remember forever so once I once I lost
it I felt relief because I'm like oh no
I can fuck anyone I want because like I
made the first time special so now it
doesn't matter I enjoy sex for a myriad
of ways it's not just like the pleasure
I feel in being touched in my body and
the orgasm and things like that like I
enjoy connecting I enjoy being naked
with someone I enjoy expressing and
exploring I like I just loved exploring
things even if I didn't like it because
I had especially at that age I there
were so many things that I had tried so
I'm like yeah what's it like to stick a
finger in my butt what's it like to you
know whatever it is like there were so
many things I hadn't done so it was a
really exciting time in my life and now
I still like when I'm having sex with
someone there's so many different ways
that I can connect with someone and it's
always a new experience
so I'm always just curious like because
you're so like like
you're such a ray of light there's just
an orb of like positivity and I just
feel like when someone something's going
well for someone someone discovers
something
and I think for a lot of people's sex
like you didn't have it tainted and
shamed it doesn't seem like before you
did it and then after you did it it
doesn't seem like there was a lot of
slut shamey whatever so oh there was
yeah because I'm like how have you not
gone dark you just I'm just trying to
find the part in this trajectory because
like
you know I'm you know I think most women
would probably be like you uh point of
view wise with sex and I I wish they
could be but I think so many women
either got embarrassed or ashamed
whether it's hate their bodies or got
slut shamed or yeah bad sex or whatever
it is oh yeah I got slut shamed like
crazy in high school that's what ended
up leading me into porn so basically I
turned 14 I get rid of my virginity and
I'm like oh it's on now I can fuck
everyone so I was fucking guys I was
fucking girls I was slut shamed for
every way that I expressed my fucking
girls was that like I just want to learn
about it or like I'm attracted both both
I wanted to I wanted to try everything I
was attracted to women but that at that
time that wasn't cool it wasn't cool to
kiss girls so that was probably the
thing that I was shamed for the most was
having a girlfriend in high school what
yeah that was like not and I guess at
the school I was at it was just like
there was so much
in high school like like dating full-on
and I actually was made to apologize at
school assembly for kissing my girl in
the quadrangle like like heterosexual
couples could kiss all they wanted but
because I kissed my girlfriend in the
quadrangle that was considered making a
scene and we were made to apologize to
the school like I went through a lot of
trauma in high school for myself I
Angela Wade I'm sorry for giving all the
teachers erections
on the quad earlier yeah that was my bad
yeah fucked up you had I had to
apologize I went through some fucked up
stuff in high school for because of my
sexuality and the other thing okay so
high school which is by the way the fact
that I look back now and I'm like the
high school prom homecoming Sadie
Hawkins these the why are these you guys
are just like encouraging the students
to stress out obsess over who they're
going to invite and eventually fuck at
the end of May like all like that is so
spooky to me the fact that they have any
judgments when it's just kind of like a
weird like breeding program not as big
of a deal in Australia the whole prom
thing oh really yeah in America it's it
really breaks people yeah you're you and
I are best friends and we're in high
school and then the quarterback asks you
to prom and then all of a sudden we're
not friends anymore and then it's like
and then you go to the prom and all the
teachers are there watching us dance and
kind of dry hump and like sort of graze
boners to Hozier Take Me To Church
whatever is happening and then you know
they're gonna have sex that it's just
like why are the teachers here oh so are
you guys like when you have sex why are
you here for the foreplay like what is
this like it's just yeah
okay it's just like it's I just find it
very toxic and it's taken this long for
me to look back and go like that's
bizarre like just that we encourage
anyway so that's not a big thing in
Australia but because you had a
girlfriend
um by the time prom came around I had a
boyfriend but if I hadn't had a
boyfriend I probably wouldn't have even
gone what happened with the girl
um just I can't even remember why we
broke up but just didn't work out it
wasn't like it was we were dating but it
wasn't like serious nothing is really
serious in high school yeah but I mean
but to do that in high school is a big
swing
what's the big deal because what but if
you because like I am dating a girl now
you know and and someone else or
whatever so it's like oh good she's
Whitney she's wacky she has blue hair
she dates girl you know it's like it
kind of works but like that's a big
swing like for 14 15.
to be fully dating a girl at school
because people are going you're a
lesbian well yeah that's exactly
lesbian and so the slang at at least in
at my school for lesbian was lemon so we
had lemons thrown at us like it was like
actual physical bullying I got punched
in the face
yeah like it was like really hardcore
what I went through in high school
imagine being a guy in high school
thinking he has a shot with you and then
finding out he doesn't
well I I was still fucking guys we
fucked guys together too like it wasn't
like they didn't have a chance you need
to have a shirt that's like don't worry
you're you're welcome here
you were punched in the face yeah once
only once thankfully yeah I mean it was
kind of like I have a boy or girl a girl
so I'll tell you this what a hand I I
was always teased for being a lesbian
and this one girl just kept on like
harassing me about it and she just came
up to me she never like had fully
explained why she was bullying me but
she came up to me she's like so what are
you are you a fucking lesbian and I said
why are you interested and I got smacked
yeah and turns out she was a lesbian
actually a couple years later a couple
of years later there's other ways to
touch me okay you don't have to punch me
to touch my face like fuck you yeah yeah
oh honey do you feel like Looking Back
Now with that not to like for like just
to you know make excuses but do you feel
like that was internalized homophobia
because she was yeah jealous yeah it
definitely I mean she obviously felt
uncomfortable about the fact that I was
expressing myself in a way that she
wanted to or didn't know she wanted to
just felt she just felt uncomfortable
about that do you think she'd every time
she comes she thinks about hitting you
in the face in high school I hope she
feels bad about that I feel like
whoever she's married to definitely
thinks about that every night every time
they fight the thing that surprised me
the most about being punched in the face
is how little it hurt like the
adrenaline it's like stunning yeah like
you have so much adrenaline Comfort like
you don't even feel the pain I just was
shaking with so much adrenaline yeah
when you really get injured it's same I
had um uh when my ear was bitten off by
a dog I felt nothing like my ear was
like hanging down felt nothing looked in
the mirror got to in as soon as I was
like
cared for as soon as I got to the
hospital they started like doing stuff
then I was like it's like your brain
knows you know like something they sense
dopamine to the area or oxytocin
whatever it is um I think it's um
phenylethylamine actually
um to uh keep you feeling good so that
you'll save yourself yeah you know what
I mean like uh the girl that got her arm
bitten off by shark Britney someone
Anthony Hamilton Bethany Hamilton
she uh she said that she heard the sound
but it felt like almost orgasmic when
the shark bit her arm off like it sends
so much feel-good chemicals to the area
so that you'll fight for your life and
not give up wow I wonder if she thinks
about that when she orgasms
laughs
and she probably uses her nub I mean how
does she even masturbate what a bummer
she has another hand or what happened
well yeah was I don't know if she's left
or right yeah I mean she must her she
has a nub now okay
imagine if that is the best orgasm
you've ever had in your life and it
never pays that's a big one the idea of
like oh sexo will never be as good as
the shot bite sex with is great babe but
getting bit by getting my arm bitten off
that was that that's my kink
have you encountered any
extreme Kinks and do you have any intel
for me on the king front of where where
they come from
I'm pretty fascinated um
with no judgments no no no no no I
actually I mean I get a lot of
interesting requests on only fans
um I wouldn't say they're extreme
they're just like very creative
um there's like the the volking so their
Kink is making you go
huh I gotta go to I gotta go to I gotta
go to Michael's
there's a there's a lot of like yeah
like I have to you know they want me to
cover myself in cake or something or oh
yeah
um all the the eating ones where you eat
them well they're shrinking no no like
you eat so um I have a lot of guys who
like shrinking fetishes so I used to do
them a lot on webcams so I would like
make a special lemonade that would
actually have a secret potion in there
they wouldn't know that and then they'd
drink it and they'll be like oh my God
what's happening and start to shrink and
so I take the webcam and slowly put the
webcam down on the floor as I laugh
maniacally
um and then
I would play with them as but it
wouldn't always be sexual like sometimes
they just want you to put them in your
pocket or put them in between your
cleavage and just carry them around that
is that first of all that is darling
it's cute right that is precious
so Kinks Kinks I want to send you this
one that I did recently actually because
I think it's still on my phone
hang on let me find this for you waiting
I what is what I would like to I'm gonna
call
Shark Tank I would what service would
allow me how much money would it cost to
just go on your phone for a minute just
through your just through your photos
third videos
I'm gonna add drop this to you hopefully
it's the right one why is my boobs
please I hope you can send into things
by opening this message
yeah okay so that's what a recent one
that I did a little custom for the vore
I am so hungry and you look like such an
incredibly delicious little snack
I hope you don't mind if um
I get straight to it I think you're
gonna digest pretty quickly because I've
been hungry for a while in fact I'm
salivating just looking at you I might
just swallow you home
so um here we go
[Music]
this is literally so many men oh my gosh
Jay you are delicious to be eaten
to be eaten
like little be shrunk and then eaten
I'm gonna call it Army Hammer and figure
out how to eat people man that's where
the money is like what do you think that
is they want to be inside you
in a different way I never ask why
because I don't want I don't want anyone
to ever get in their head about their
father I don't know why yeah I just am
fascinated I'm fascinated too but I just
I just never I'm like you know what if
they wanted to tell me they'd tell me
maybe they don't even know why maybe
they don't even want to know why right
so I just I'm like all right doesn't
matter like but I think there's because
it's not about you know for me whenever
there's something going on with me
that's a compulsion or an obsession I'm
like oh let me figure out what this is
so I can change it or fix it or heal it
or but um but with Kinks like my kings
are always pretty uh helpful information
you know what I mean like mine are like
I so embarrassing I'll do it let's go
like things you fantasize about when
you're masturbating or having sex
whatever
very big into like now
workers at my house not the ones I
currently have but workers that are just
killing it at my house
politely asking to come in the house
should I take my shoes off
and I'm like no
and then they just fuck me and go back
to doing great work that's hot agree
yeah but like in my brain I'm like oh I
really just want competent workers I'm
turned on like because I've had
incompetent
criminals doing work on my house like I
it's in good information yeah you know
what I'm saying I'm like I need to make
a change with my construction crew yeah
I I understand yeah it makes sense I
think a lot of my fantasies now revolve
around me doing less
so because well because in porn I'm so
active I'm basically doing cardio I'm On
Top I'm writing I'm you know getting
fucked upside down I do so much so I
just want to get tied up now I just want
to get tied up how do I how do I become
a bottom yeah how do I be fucked like
how does someone fuck me and I do less
of a comedian doing crowd work we're
like What are you can you do this for me
it's like can you where are you from
like that's same same I've done a lot of
work up here tonight I'm in the same
I've just turned 40 and I'm like what do
you do sir
uh but so when it comes to getting into
when did you decide okay this is
something I want to do for a living okay
so that's going back to all the bullying
and the slut shaming that I experienced
in high school so pornography was the
first place I saw women being celebrated
for fucking a bunch of people I mean you
know it's been it's it's Hedy Lamarr is
someone I'm obsessed with she was a
um uh what was the year let me find
Hedy Lamarr who has now been linked to
uh uh being fundamentally uh I don't
want to say she invented Wi-Fi but
fundamentally involved in the the
invention of Wi-Fi
um she was an actress who was Austrian
and she did a movie called ecstasy in
1933 and it showed her having an orgasm
on camera and she was so publicly shamed
and disgraced that she moved to America
became very famous in America
I don't think anyone wouldn't even know
I don't think the people running
Hollywood wanted anyone to know that was
even on the menu
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orgasms just don't that's not even a
that's a myth that's really fucked up so
could men orgasm always yeah wow yeah
yeah
that's really why misogynistic yeah yeah
wild so so I never saw sex being
pleasurable to women it was always just
like marriage marriage marriage
whichever Disney movie every rom-com you
know it was all about saving yourself
for marriage it was never like
enjoying sex well that's why porn was so
incredible for me it was like this
Progressive space where I was like oh
wow women are allowed to have fun be
naked fuck men fuck women and they're
celebrated for that rather than
criticized for it so I was like at 14 I
was like that is what I want to do and
what was it do you remember the first
porn you saw I don't okay so I saw a
couple different things
um I don't remember the name of the
movie but I saw some really weird movie
with my with my my soon-to-be boyfriend
and his friend
um where these male performers were
wearing lamps they were naked and they
were wearing lamp shades over their
heads I mean yeah and they end up
getting their dick sucked and fucking
was very odd I don't know what movie
that was and then the the thing still
never found it to this day but we still
have a thing for lampshades no
um but the the thing I remember the most
was I had this Penthouse letters and
there was this blonde woman laying there
covered in lace and pearls and she had
this huge smile on her face and she was
looking directly down the lens just like
staring into your soul with this big
smile on her face and I was like fuck
yes I'm gonna be happy in porn like this
is where I can be myself this is where I
can express myself this is where I can
be me and everyone's gonna love me for
it I can express and explore sex in a
safe place with like-minded peers so
yeah 14 I was like I'm gonna be in porn
that is in Wild that I spent the next
four years researching it figuring out
what companies could be safe to work
with because obviously there were still
a lot of myths surrounding the industry
about it just like
being a place where you know all the
women are pimped out and Drug abused and
what so I I did my research like I was
really serious about figuring out how I
could get it you approached it as a
business I did approach it as a business
did you research any porn stars that
came before you that's actually one of
the reasons I ended up working so the
first company that I worked with was the
score group and they were flying in
models so they're based in Miami Florida
but they were flying in models from
around the world and I was like reading
this is at the time it was magazines
they had DVDs and stuff too but it was
like magazines were the easiest things
for me to get my hands on
and they kept coming back these models I
was like they'd fly them into Florida
they'd fly them into the Bahamas or
they'd fly them into Europe and I was
like oh here they are in in Prague and
then like a year later there in the UK
I'm like well these models wouldn't keep
flying and shooting with this company if
they were treating them poorly
that was that was I mean
that was all the research that I could
that I had and I was like I went into it
with them as much now there's so much I
was right okay yeah I was like I was
right trust me I'm like that could have
gone either way because I'm like you
moved to LA and you're like well that's
Harvey Weinstein guy all these people
wouldn't work with them if he was really
great
seems like they just keep winning Oscars
well this was this was with the
knowledge that I could Garner as a 14
year old now like yeah that you can
listen to a bunch of podcasts where porn
stars talk about their experience at the
time that was the best information that
I could Garner at the time and
thankfully
I was right did you tell your mom about
your plan yeah when she said well she
was worried yeah
I was not as worried as my mom when I
told her I was gonna do comedy
oh
can I tell you you know I it is it is
just it's good look like stand-up comedy
sex work we go hand in hand in so many
ways sorry if that was a weird double
entender but
um uh like comedy in America I mean
comedy started in America essentially um
stand-up comedy there was the Court
Jester that but the court Jester's job
and
Europe was to you know joke around with
the King and make jokes about the king
to make sure the power hadn't corrupted
him you know or uh created some kind of
like ego maniacal brain disease so joke
with the King and if the king didn't
laugh people had to go like oh we're
worried you know or the Jester's job is
to deliver bad news in a silly way and
you know keep things light and the
um courts but um stand-up comedy
it was very much like hip-hop invented
in America and came up in strip clubs
you know and we started this together
Vaudeville May West you know Moms Mabley
Etc and uh and it's just so funny
because it's like I go there's this um
strip club in L.A called crazy girls we
went to an after the Burt roast I wasn't
I didn't get to go so I had to work the
next day so I was like I got it I
figured yeah I just love it because it's
like it's more like bikini bar like
they're it's not even topless I don't
think um they have pasties and stuff but
uh but when I go quite a lot and when I
go uh they're always like how you doing
like they look down on us they're like
we we exploit our bodies for money you
guys exploit like your depression like
they're like how are you like so it's
like you know so so anyway so it just
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think it's interesting because I think
comedians you know come from a lot of
disapproval but I feel like you you have
to come from in order to do what you do
you have to come from a lot of approval
and and comfort or
um in terms of like well maybe in within
yourself at least to start when you
started you it seems like you had a lot
of support and structure and you know uh
safety I'm that's not so I'm very
privileged and that my family is very
accepting of what I do and like it was a
journey it wasn't like they were just
like super excited for me from the
beginning
um but there are a lot of performers
that don't have that that do get
ostracized from their family because
there's a lot of jobs where it's like
we'll accept it if you're the best but
in that in that beginning period where
you're making like you know
50 bucks a week that's what you know
what I mean it's like did you was there
a time when it was like just wait till I
can buy you pay your rent and then
you'll be supportive
um thankfully they were supportive
before the money came in but it took so
in the beginning
um so I when I got into the industry I
mean I wanted to get in at 14 obviously
I had to wait till I was 18 I had all
those four years to like plan everything
and get in and when I turned 18 I was
still in high school so it was like a
big deal that I was like well I'm gonna
I mean I still I stayed in school but I
left for two weeks to shoot porn and
then came back and I told my mom I just
turned 18 and I could have told her in a
way that was a lot softer but I was like
just so punk rock I just was like I just
I didn't want anyone I didn't want to
hear anyone's opinion about it like I
had already done the research I had
already made up my mind so I didn't want
to leave an opening for her to say oh
are you sure you want to do like I was
sure I wanted to do this and so when I
told her I was so blunt and now I look
back and I'm like I was so rude and mean
I was I was 18. I just said I'm gonna go
and shoot porn and I don't care what you
think you know and it's like I didn't
need to say it like that but I felt like
at the time been shamed or something or
yeah I was just like this is this is
what I want to do and I'm going to do it
and she was worried for all the reasons
that any mother would be worried I was
only 18. I'd never been overseas by
myself before I was going to be flown
over the other side of the world to the
states that is that if you're in
Australia is is America like the place
to go yes okay yes I mean like La
specifically is the headquarters of porn
production nice yes that's it globally
so yeah baby
Burbank yep
Pawn Valley
so it's actually amazing because I know
when a stu so when you're shooting
shooting in studios or
um you can tell which ones were built as
porn stages because they have the most
bathrooms so I was just shooting this
show Cooper's bar it was um that Ray C
horn she's on Better Call Saul she
played my um friend on my sitcom she's
brilliant and we're shooting out in uh
Canoga Park California and it was like
super spread out and there's bathrooms
in truly every room every hallway and
that's where you're like oh this is porn
yeah we got to prepare they put in extra
bathrooms yeah
but that's that's part of the reason why
La is the perfect place for porn because
we can piggyback off the Hollywood
industry as well I mean obviously you
guys are yeah
you guys actually make money you get to
keep it
your CEOs don't have Yachts while you
live in an apartment A gardener well
things have changed now because of only
fans I think you know it's it's gotten
better for performers yeah I want to
hear I want to get really dig into that
um my just question is like are you
studying a porn star are you looking up
to someone the same way as a comedian I
was looking I looked up to actually a
lot of non-comedians too I like I kind
of was like I know I want to be an
Entertainer and like I looked up to
Dennis Rodman I looked up to Adam
Sandler I looked up to you know but also
you know Richard Pryor and George Carlin
whatever were there entertainers Danny
Ash Danny Danny Ash was like she was the
first big internet star she was also
um a woman with big natural breasts and
for me like I I was praying for big
boobs so when they finally came I was
like finally my ticket to sex did you
ever get male attention that felt like
um negative you know the male attention
I I loved getting male attention and now
I look back at some of the attention I
got and I'm like that was actually
creepy but at the time I loved it I
loved getting older male attention yeah
so yeah but now I look back and I'm like
why were you what are you I was like
just because I liked the lollipop
doesn't mean you should have given it to
me a weirdo no there were there are many
situations where at the time I thought
this is cool and now I look back and I'm
like you were 40. and I was 14 and what
were we doing like Australia yeah
descended from criminals is that true
though really yeah yeah yeah like yeah
but I think that's some of the most
incredible Talent comes from Australia I
think because of that that criminal DNA
punk rock DNA that's right we have punk
rock yeah so you're looking up to Danny
I'm looking up to Danny and not just
because of the boobs she was she she
built an Empire she is the first
internet Queen she created a business
she became a millionaire from just doing
what she wanted to do for expressing
herself and showing her body and like
she was a boss so that's who I looked up
to I was always like I'm gonna make my
own money I'm gonna build my own Empire
I'm gonna produce and direct and I'm
gonna make I'm gonna own my content did
you ever think about stripping or any I
I did for a little while I it just I I
didn't like it I yeah there was a lot
like yes I I like to go to bed early
yeah I also I'm not I'm not good at
hustling in that I'm not good at
hustling people yeah like I'm very I'm a
very hard worker but um that that
interaction where you've got to try and
get money from people like it's much
easier in porn I'm just like yeah and
the money comes like I do what I love
and the money flows right it's
attraction not like like yeah yeah I
just I just wasn't great at it to be
honest
um so yeah I did that for maybe six
months stripping is such an art like I
mean it is like I go to strip clubs to
study I mean I learn as a performer I
learned so much just like the cut like
you just have to you are the shit like
you just have to enter into that reality
and you know and when the girls don't
you can tap like watching strippers that
are kind of just like not into it or
kind of giving a lot but you can tell in
their eyes they're not into it I'm like
sometimes I do that on stage where I'm
like giving it all but the eyes like you
gotta be there you got like you gotta
and if you're not like doing it for the
Love of the Game too yeah it's always
going to be I feel like a uphill yeah
yeah I wasn't my thing and I I also did
porn before I did stripping so that was
something I tried afterwards because I
was like oh I'm so interested in sex and
sex work why don't I try this I'm sure
I'll love it and I feel like I'd lose an
Achilles heel you know yeah yeah so then
you're getting into the industry like in
the beginning was there you know like
any business that is sort of your uh you
know sole proprietor like was there you
know I went to like open mics and you
know you're dealing with people that are
kind of like not at the top yeah that
are sort of sketchy and Shady like
that's not just a porn thing that in the
beginning people take advantage of you
and things aren't professional and
whatever did you have like some rough I
was really lucky that I started with a
really professional company you know I
really did vet like every company that I
worked for I did all the research that I
could on them I would like ask people I
would ask around like what are they cool
to work with so I I was a diligent
researcher
um there was a period in the beginning
where
um I just did go go so I wasn't ready to
do boy girl so I I took my every step in
my career I took at my own pace like it
didn't matter what kind of pressure I
was getting from other people like oh
you could make more money doing this
the way I've made my decisions I've got
this like fuckier mentality it's like am
I fucking a principle right so if I
think about something and my answer
isn't fuck yeah then I don't do it like
if there's any kind of niggling thought
like and so like if it's not a hell yes
it's a no exactly I love it and so
that's in the beginning
um when I would think about boy girl
where did you learn that to trust your
gut I don't know I really don't know I
just
you know I I guess like when there's a
niggling thing that I'm like even if I
can't put my finger on why I'm not ready
for something that niggling thing is
just so strong that I can't do it like I
just can't God that is like a darwinian
fucking Advantage because for me if
there's like a if I'm like oh someone's
asked me to do this like if I say no
what if they don't ask again and what if
I'm missing this opportunity and then
I'll force myself to do something
against me and be like why you're just
being scared you're just being you know
trepidatious because you're insecure and
I'll like throw myself into things I'm
like I knew I shouldn't have done that
why didn't I just trust my gut so I'm
fine it's taking me so long to get to
that point how amazing that you had it
that young yeah I don't know I don't
know where that came from to even say it
like I think for most people it's like
even if I can't explain to you why or
what's going on the answer is just no
yeah I wish I had a perfectly eloquent
explanation but like my gut saying no is
enough information for me that's awesome
yeah so yeah so I did um
I I performed for other companies for a
number of years and then I realized that
even though that was a lot of fun if I
wanted to bring my own vision of
sexuality to life and fuck how I wanted
to fuck and wear what I wanted to wear I
was going to have to create my own
production company so when you're doing
it for someone else do they give you the
scenario they give you the scene they
give you the everything and you kind of
so you still have final say you can
obviously you can say yes or no to
anything I didn't know that was obvious
oh you can you can say yes or no to
anything obviously okay not obviously
you can set you I'm telling you you can
say yes or no to anything
um so for example I'll be told my screen
Partners ahead of time if for some
reason I don't want to shoot with them
I'll say let's let's try someone else
there's you also want to be a team
player so they might say we're going to
put your hair in curls I don't like my
nowadays you won't see my hair you're
like peep for this one yeah I'm like no
there are certain things that I won't
play I won't do anything like I've
rejected a lot of scripts when there's
any kind of like slut shaming or even if
it's like slut shaming of a different
form of sex work like I refuse to and
what does that look like like within it
sled shaving within
um like like looking down at someone
who's like um doing other forms of sex
work maybe they're an escort or a
stripper or calling like if there's a
line line in a script where I call a
stripper a slut or something I'm just
like that kind of thing I'm just like I
won't do that
um you know certain scenarios like but
when you shoot for yourself you choose
everything from why is it that I don't
like it when some someone calls someone
else a slut but if you don't call me a
slut while we're having sex I will never
have sex with you again that's a
different
that's a different thing it's contextual
in the bedroom
I'm a dirty little slut
not on the street no in the bedroom in
my home that I worked hard to pay for
it will it should be said yes that is
the only time it should be said but see
that's boundaries and consent
that's the difference the stranger on
the street saying that you're a dirty
little slut that is not cool it's well
it's just like little little thank you
that's all I hear
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so you're like I need to because this is
I mean we have a very similar
trajectory business-wise you know I got
into comedy and I'm doing other people's
shows and I'm like I'm never gonna be
able to do what I do within this I can't
fit in here yeah I'm not pretty enough
to be the pretty girl I'm not weird
enough to be the girl like there were
all these like categories for actresses
and you know so you created your own
category well yeah I have no choice yeah
it was sort of like the same but see I
was also in my body type like I was sort
of like
um too curvy for mainstream but not
quite big enough for Baby W yeah so I my
body type like now thick is in now we
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the body type thing and I was like hi I
don't quite necessarily tell you that or
you just go like in the metrics or the
numbers you're like I'm not
hitting uh it I mean I in Australia
we're kind of like 10 years behind when
it comes to porn like so wherever we are
in the US like you show up to the porn
set with fucking a giant Bush of pews
everyone's like ah well they who invited
Bigfoot when like America was starting
to accept like thicker girls like I was
modeling in Australia and they still
wanted like they wanted stick thin
bolt-ons but I don't feel like that's
what men want
well I think men want everything and I
think that there's a there's a body type
for every man I think like Hollywood
then maybe like Hollywood like didn't
understand like the executives that were
running Hollywood they want anorexic
like 22 year olds but people don't you
know what I mean the internet
democratized everything that's what
you're into you're gay you know I'm
sorry
um but uh but yeah so it's like you know
and this is something else I learned
when I was doing all the research for
the robot which is the robot Factory the
requests that come in for the custom
dolls the sex dolls is uh part of the
reason they're struggling so much is
that
um the requests are usually to have
girls that are bigger they want bigger
asses bigger size yours is already so
heavy yeah
they're just so cumbersome they're more
heavy than they're heavier than a human
I think so and like
dead weight yeah humans like help you
care even it's like it's like carrying a
drunk girl out of the bar I mean it's
just truly dead weight so there's that
they request uh nipples that are as big
as the boob darker nipples all the stuff
that you would not think would be the uh
socially constructed standard of beauty
oh I think I think yeah I mean being in
Pawn I think the internet democratized
pornography like we actually saw what
people wanted which was everything yeah
everything out of the sun Pawn gets
blamed a lot that's this myth like the
anti-porn feminists always talk about oh
you know like the rise of labiaplasty is
because of porn it's like have you
actually watched porn some of the top
performers have really long meaty lips
like it's not porn focus on the
labioplasties in South Africa on the
kids how about those maybe focus on
those
but um yeah I can't remember what the oh
it was like creating my company so that
then I could uh actually create the pawn
that I wanted where the things I wanted
help like did you
um so uh in the beginning no I did
everything I edited my own movies I mean
obviously so I was coming across here
and I was I had my cruise here in La so
I would pick the videographer I wanted
to pick the photographer that I wanted
I'd pick the male and female talent I
wanted the makeup artist like I could do
everything from the minute detail and
then I would go back home and edit all
the content and create the product that
I really wanted to see what I wanted to
see in porn
oh nice yeah do you did you watch porn
at the top like would you watch it or
see what other people were doing I
watched a lot of Pawn yeah both for my
own pleasure and as market research you
know
I was studying yeah I mean I just love
the idea that's like like female
comedians being competitive like
watching each other's stuff being like
Oh God I was gonna do that like oh no
well when it comes to sex it's like
there's only there's only so many
different positions you can do it's
really what you bring to those positions
and when this is a very weird question
and I like today I was like don't ask
her that but I think I should which is
um
it's very clear why you're as famous as
you are and successful as you are but
why do you think you're such a star in
does that make sense or why do you think
people are so drawn to you I think it's
because I love what I do I think it's
because I'm passionate about it I really
and that's clear and it comes through
yeah which you know not to shame anyone
who does it for the money we all have to
that's fine for the money but it's like
stand up I did it like I was like I will
do this for a hundred dollars a week for
the rest of my life like yeah I was like
if I make money at this great but in the
beginning I was not making money like I
was not it really was just like a
supplemental income I was not it wasn't
my career in the beginning did you work
any other jobs while you were uh I mean
I was studying most of the time so I
mean in the end the money that I made
from porn was a lot compared to what
everyone else was doing like working at
the University cafe or whatever but you
know I didn't have a lot of money it
wasn't until only fans that I really
started to make big big money like I
just did it because I loved it
so hold on so you're doing films you're
doing your own stuff only fans comes
along was that five years ago
um I feel like during the pandemic is
when that's when it started cracking
yeah but I want to say I think I had an
account in in 2018 I think but I I
posted a couple of things it wasn't it
wasn't really big I was so focused on
producing and and performing in studio
porn that I wasn't focused on it at all
so I don't know that many people were
making big big money on only fans until
it blew up in 2020. before that that you
were
grinding on before it was like Angela
white.com that was my own website now
like now only fans are so lucrative that
URL just links straight to only fans
because running your own website comes
with a whole bunch of costs like hosting
and yeah so now it's just like well just
go to my only fans but yeah your website
should be angelaway.edu I learn a lot
it's very educational
um so only fans comes along and is this
like your first year trepidatious but
what are the like I mean
explain what only fans has done for the
sex work community and why it's so
crucial uh it's given it's really
empowered performers it's um for many
performers it's been this source of
income that allows them to have more
options and make more choices you know
like I am
lucky that I've been in a position for a
long time to to make decisions when it
comes to say like I can choose who I
work with and or I feel like I can
choose anyone can are there certain
performers that you just like have
really good chemistry with even though
it's not if it's not like but you can
still say like good game after oh yeah
oh yeah there's I mean the the chemistry
ranges from like oh my God like I love
this person too like oh they're a good
friend and I can fuck them and we can
give Mutual pleasure but it's not like
it's not like I want to have dinner with
them or anything right sure sure you
know like give me the dick and then
there's actually quite a few like that
that I'm just like I really like them as
people but I just often tell everyone to
hear you speak yeah
um so there's that so there's that and
and
um there's actually very few people that
I don't have some kind of connection
with whether it's sort of like you know
on this on the Friendship spectrum and
um if if I just have absolutely zero
chemistry with someone then they'll end
up on my no list just because I don't
want to go to like sex I don't want sex
to become a chore for me yeah so if we
have sex and I just can't find anything
like and it's usually if if they're just
not present at all like if they can't be
in the scene with me because you need to
be in this space between us if you're
over there I mean everyone has a bad day
I don't you know if it's just a one-off
whatever but if you're not really
engaging in the sex and with me in some
capacity then I can't find a way to
connect with you and then I'm having
disconnected sex and then I feel
horrible and oh you know I just uh yeah
I don't want to be like machine like
robots fucking yeah yeah that's my brand
okay I will sue you if you start doing
that okay that is you already did the
Two Broke Girls porn so we're
we're pushing it on the copyright
infringement I'll send the robots to you
but
is there do you wow that's fascinating
to me with checking out during that is
such a bummer when you feel like
someone's checked out during sex and
you're just like a blow up doll and
you're like what are we doing like I
feel like you're just jerking off with
me with my pussy yeah but do you ever
worry that because I'll watch porn
sometimes I'm like oh they're falling in
love oh my God like I'll watch like
sometimes like when James Dean did that
movie with I think was Lindsay Lohan oh
yeah back in the day I like got really
into his like things ah I get really
into his like videos and I'd watch him
and I'd be like he's in love with her
they're in love and then I w
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